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∂23-Jan-80 1526 SLH at MIT-AI (Stephen L. Hain)
Date: 23 JAN 1980 1827-EST
From: SLH at MIT-AI (Stephen L. Hain)
To: LCS at SU-AI (To Clem Smith:)
I heard that you have a 6502 emulator. I would like to know if it would be
possible for me to use it on MIT-AI for a version of LOGO I have written
for the APPLE ][ home computer. Thanks. - Stephen L. Hain (SLH@MIT-AI)
∂08-Feb-80 1332 LES
∂08-Feb-80 0616 Feigenbaum at SUMEX-AIM would you handle this please
Date: 8 Feb 1980 0617-PST
From: Feigenbaum at SUMEX-AIM
Subject: would you handle this please
To: les at SAIL
Mail from USC-ISI rcvd at 7-Feb-80 1712-PST
Date: 7 Feb 1980 1711-PST
Sender: ENGELMORE at USC-ISI
Subject: Request from Dave Stoutemyer
Subject: [STOUTE at MIT-MC (David Stoutemyer)]
From: ENGELMORE at USC-ISI
To: Feigenbaum at SUMEX-AIM
Message-ID: <[USC-ISI] 7-Feb-80 17:11:36.ENGELMORE>
Ed,
Would you please tell Dave Stoutemeyer who to get in touch with and
how? (I would guess it's Leland Smith in the MUsic Dept., but I'm not sure.)
Thanks,
Bob
Begin forwarded message
Mail from SUMEX-AIM rcvd at 7-Feb-80 1017-PST
Mail from MIT-MC rcvd at 7-Feb-80 1013-PST
Date: 7 FEB 1980 1315-EST
From: STOUTE at MIT-MC (David Stoutemyer)
To: engelmore at SUMEX-AIM
Hi Bob,
A colleague of mine here is interested in Having Musical scores printed
using computer formatting -- sort of TEX for music. I recall reading
about something like that done at Stanford. Do you know who to contact
and/oor a reference?
Thanks for any help you can give -- Dave Stoutemyer
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End forwarded message
∂23-Mar-80 1230 100 : REM via SU-TIP Split-baud
I have a borrowed split-baud modem from IMSSS and am currently using
our 6502 with the Datamedia 2500 emulator. Works great! I had to
modify the software to initialize the modem UART/ACIA in split baud
mode, otherwise no changes were needed. <<this message for clem>>
∂16-Apr-80 1724 DGL ARpλPA
To: MRC at SU-AI, GFF at SU-AI, "@MUSIC.DIS[DOC,MUS]" at SU-AI
I am attempting to gain access to the
ARPA net so as to be able to continue
to read my mail at SAIL and to do file
copying. Unfortunately, as you know,
the music project never had ArλRPA access
(although in the past it was just part
of the noise), so I have no basis to
ask for TIP phone numbers.
Nevertheless, I am askinkλg, if there
isn't some way of overcomming this.
I know λλλλλλλdλDo you have any method of access?
Could I become a part of some project
that didλλλλ you know of that did?
For instance, is anyone eiλλinterested in
free consulting on something I may
know? If you have any ideas, please
let me know.
Gareth
∂27-Apr-80 2032 Alan Kotok <KOTOK at DEC-2136> Music Typography Program
Date: 27 Apr 1980 2122-EDT
From: Alan Kotok <KOTOK at DEC-2136>
To: lcs at SAIL
Subject: Music Typography Program
Ralph Gorin suggested that you have a program which produces printed
music notation. My wife is doing a thesis which involves transcribing
numerous madrigals from part books to scores. If you have anything
which might be of help, I would appreciate hearing from you.
If the program, (if it exists) takes input from alphanumeric terminals,
I could input the data from home. It probably would not be of much use
to me if it required some Stanford-only terminal.
Thank you for your help.
Alan
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∂06-May-80 0844 Alan Kotok <KOTOK at DEC-2136> Music Typography Program
Date: 5 May 1980 2101-EDT
From: Alan Kotok <KOTOK at DEC-2136>
To: lcs at SAIL
Subject: Music Typography Program
Thanks much for your long and helpful reply. I have copied and printed
MS.LCS. As expected, much is obscure in that document, but I suspect
I can get a long way with the simple directions included in your
message.
Dick Helliwell has offered to help me cause the output to be printed
on our Versatec Plotter, which is similar to an XGP, but it prints
on special paper. He wonders what your output file format looks like.
If you can give me a pointer to the program which writes the output,
or some other clue as to what the output file looks like, I can pass
that info to him.
In the mean time, I would appreciate your mailing me the output from
the Gibbons example you did. Also, any other output with the corresponding
input would be helpful.
The scope of this project is 2 books of, I believe, 24 madrigals by one
Scipione Lacorcia. Since they are all similar in format, I expect that
if I can get your help getting one correct, I can do the rest with minimal
help from your end. If necessary, I can probably make it out there some
time to fine tune the output. I hope to be able to use the local plotter
to see how I am coming.
Judie (my wife) and I certainly appreciate the interest you have taken,
and I hope not to take too much of your time.
My mailing address is: Alan Kotok
Digital Equipment Corp.
ML3-5/H33
146 Main St.
Maynard, MA 01754
phone (617) 493-7381
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∂19-May-80 0923 DEK European book about music engraving
I just learned of a book that I am getting a Xerox copy of via Copenhagen:
Karl Harder: Aus der Werkstatt eines Notenstechers,
Waldheim-Eberle Verlag, Wien, 1948
80 pages, "richly illustrated"
This book is apparently out of print. I plan to give the Xerox copy to
the Stanford library when I get it. From what I've heard, you will be
interested in looking at it, since it is one of the rare publications
on the subject. The first 40 pages are apparently about the history of
music engraving, the last 40 about how to do it in 1948.
∂23-May-80 2030 EJG Ancient Fortran (F40) question
Hi. I seem to remember you asking me about a million years ago if there
was any way to control both the filename and extension of an F40 data
file. Well, in case you never found it (and have just been using call
ifile and call ofile), I accidentally stumbled across a way to do it. It
uses the "define" subroutine, which appears to be intended for use with
fortran random access files, but seems to work OK also on just normal
ASCII files. In the example below, parameters are:
1: fortran logical unit number.
0: random access buffer size (I just guessed 0 would work).
iiiii: random access "associated variable"; for safety, use
an unused integer variable name here.
'NAMEXXEXT ': file name and extension, 10 characters.
I found this when looking for a way to tell F40 to use (e.g.) device
DSK for logical unit number 3, instead of device LPT. (Other than
the kluge of using the monitor command "ASSIGN DSK 3".) Do you by
any chance know how to do this?
---example---
call define(1,0,iiiii,'NAMEZZEXT ')
write(1,1)
1 format(' hoo hah')
call exit
end
∂27-May-80 1832 AK on TTY162 1832 via MIT-TIP
I will likely be out your way between June 6 and June 9. I would very
much like to talk to you, preferably on the weekend. Please let
me know whether this would be feasible, or if not, the name of
somebody I could talk to about the music typography program when I
am there. I would like to set a madrigal, so I can gain experience.
Also, if there is a student who would like to be my California agent,
for money, let me know that, too.
Please send answer to KOTOK@@DEC-2136
∂09-Jun-80 2323 JMS
To: "@MUSIC.DIS[DOC,MUS]"
SUBJECT: 1980 AES CONVENTION
I have prepared a report on the recent AES gathering in LA for Computer
Music Journal. It is divided into three sections: 1) technical sessions
2) digital recording 3) digital synthesizers. If you are interested, you
are welcome to
.PUB AES.PUB[DOC,JMS]
which results in 18 pages, or to read it from your terminal. The
discussion of digital synthesizers includes a 4-page table which will be
hard to read in its .PUB form, however.
Enjoy --
JMS
∂13-Jun-80 2319 HYS "Springtime" has finally come!!!
The score to "Springtime Poems" is now edited to the extent that I can now
circulate it for anyone who'd want to look at it. The only thing left for
the score is for me to complete the preface. I already have part of it
down in an ETV file (PREF.CYC), which includes the list of instruments,
and texts for all the poems in their proper spacings and indentations
(particularly important for the cummings). I will need to do at least
one page with MS for a complete explanation of all special symbols.
If I could figure out how the PUB program works, I could do a nice
looking title page. Also, I would need to find out if there's a font
with the XGP which has umlauts, for the Rilke poem. With all due respect
to your MS program, I think that for pure text, SAIL may already have
something which works more efficiently; I know that with MS, about the
only way to "edit" text is to delete it and start all over again.
Eventually, I'm going to want parts for the whole score. One problem
I haven't yet worked out deals with string parts which have occasional
divisi passages which take up more than one staff in the score. I
managed at least to figure out how your S(et) and A(lign) commands
work, but this seems like a messy way to have to align already
pre-existing material. (If you recall the problem I had in the
third movement with the first violin part, in which I added some
more notes to the score, and it didn't read properly through the part
extractor ---- I found out that the alignment wasn't quite right
because the spacing staff I used for the extra notes didn't have
much detail. S and A took care of that. I also noticed that the
extra notes and rests didn't have any rhythmic value, whcih no doubt
confused PAGE a bit). I wonder if it isn't possible to conjure up
a sort of "group align" command. Assuming that both the spacing
staff and the staff to be aligned have the same rhythmic value,
it should be possible to get an automatic alignment. I haven't
spotted any such thing in your manual...... this divisi problem
is a potentially bad headache.
I'm also going to have to go over with you the exact format I'll need
to follow as far as turning in the score for the final project. It
looks as if the format (even without those signature pages) is quite
different from what one would normally do in a purely professional
situation.
At any case, when I'm finally ready to make an official copy, the VRN
needs to be cleaned up. Wish they could figure out a way to keep it
from getting so sooty so quickly; it's a real bother to have to run the
score through the VRN all over again just to get a cleaner copy,
especially with the UDP and the tape drives keep getting down.
My next project through MS is going to be my clarinet piece I brought
in earlier this year. I'm going to be testing out your invisible
bar-line feature alot since there are a good number of cadenzas in the
work (something not found in the "Springtime" poems at all).
∂14-Jun-80 2103 MUZ space
There should be 3237 free tracks on MUSIC9. Be my guest. Will remove more
later. (Maybe even lots.)
∂16-Jun-80 1747 G.KOTOK at SU-SCORE Revised Madrigal
Date: 16 Jun 1980 1743-PDT
From: G.KOTOK at SU-SCORE
Subject: Revised Madrigal
To: lcs at SU-AI
cc: g.kotok at SU-SCORE
I have done a number of cleanups on the files I had last weekend.
I have:
1) Put in numerous "??" items. (see comment later, herein)
2) Removed clefs at beginning of lines (except first line)
3) Removed extraneous slashes at end of input lines.
4) Merged all the files into one called "203[1,ak]". My
scheme of naming is a one digit book number "2",
a 2 digit madrigal number "03", and a 2 digit page
number, to be generated when expanding the file into
20 odd small files. The "pages" are separated by ↑L.
Could you please look this file over, and make any more labor
saving or other suggestions? Since I have a total of 36 madrigals
to do, the less input, the better. Actually, I am willing to
do more input from this end to save Rick Taube work at your end.
Speaking of Rick, I have been negligent about contacting him.
Let him know I will try and reach him soon. Do you have some
idea of how much I ought to pay him for his services? Is he
a graduate student? What is the range of going rates?
Since most of the "??"s are intersyllable hyphens only used
to group the syllables of one word, Judie would be happy with
just a "-" between the notes. Since the ?? puts in a long
dash, it will need considerable on-line editing to shrink them
down. Might you consider another feature, say "!!" which puts
in a "-" centered between the notes? If so, much labor could
be saved.
Thank you again for your time.
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∂16-Jun-80 1847 AK via MIT-TIP More musical items
(This message should be read following one of an hour or so ago
postmarked from SCORE.)
I have talked with Rick, and hopefully he will get together with
you. Messages can be left for me here.
A few other items have come up after further discussions with Judie:
1) It would be nice to have a title in larger print at the top of
the first page. While page numbers would be nice, I suspect they
will be impossible to have computer generated, since we won't know
what page number each madrigal will start on.
2) The final size of the output must be completely contained in 6 X 9
inches, to meet thesis format rules. The stuff you printed was
6 X 10, so a 10% shrink will at least be necessary. Some books
I have seen put only 2 groups of staves on the first page to allow
room for the title. Better to do this than shrink everything to
allow space for the title which only appears on page 1.
3) We would like measure numbers every 10 measures. If you can tell me
how to do it, I can supply them in the input.
4) There are a few editorial footnotes scattered
about the score. These numbers need also be put in. I suspect
they are easier for Rick to put in later.
We'll get this down to a science, yet!
∂19-Jun-80 1829 AK via SU-SCORE Music Data Ready
There are now 20 files named 20301 thru 20320 in my area
ready for Rick Taube to try to push thru. Bob Kusik, a cohort
of mine will be at Stanford all next week, and if some results
appear, he can cart them back to me.
Thanks.
∂19-Jun-80 1724 PAT MEETINGS ON MONDAY
To: MUSIC
There will be a meeting
at CCRMA at 10 am for those teaching M222
at CCRMA at 11 am for anyone interested in a runthrough of the
music system
at the Knoll at 3pm for those taking M222 and teaching it.
∂21-Jun-80 0226 HYS UDP problem
While trying to dismount MUSIC5, the top cover refused to attach itself.
I managed to get the pack off somehow, but obviously, it's not in the
best of conditions. I hope I didn't hurt the thing too badly; other people
whom I've managed to corner at this hour (2 AM) were mystified as to what's
going on. I've sent ROB a message about this situation, hoping that
someone knowledgeable could fix the thing.
∂22-Jun-80 1923 FFM at MIT-MC (Steve Kudlak)
Date: 22 JUN 1980 2224-EDT
From: FFM at MIT-MC (Steve Kudlak)
To: lcs at SU-AI
out of random curiosity do the music people
want need aany hackers
∂24-Jun-80 1201 AK via MIT-TIP Music Questions
Judie and I have a few technical questions. When would
be convenient to reach you by phone, and at what
number(s)?